Morbid, probably dumb question

"SHARPSPEED" (SHARPSPEED) 04/18/2015 at 22:17 • Filed to: None

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I’m writing something right now so I wanna get the details just right. Let’s say you, a squishy, frail human, is on the receiving end of one of these:

That big scary gun was unnecessarily used to take you out. A shotgun to kill a mosquito pretty much. Now, as a squishy frail human, would you just pop into bloody, unrecognizable bits? If you got nailed in the chest would you pretty much get blown in half, your upper body in bits and your legs just fall to to floor like something from Mortal Kombat? As sick as this sounds I actually tried looking up pictures of such a grizzly event but didn’t find anything.

CB > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:21

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I don’t know of any videos of tanks killing people, but I imagine you would become a fine mist if that shell hit you. For reference, have this video. If you love animals, do not watch this.

scoob > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:21

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I actually tried looking up pictures of such a grizzly event

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:22

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Depends on what shell it was. If it was explosive, you would explode. If it was armour piercing, it would go right through you, and you would explode. If it was a canister shell, it would be like a huge shotgun, and you would explode.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:22

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I don’t think there’d be much of anything left other than a fine red mist. Maybe a few larger bits, but I’d think it would completely pulverize the bulk of things.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:23

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Uh, you would probably be vaporized or turned into a fine pink mist. Depends if it was a HEAT or AP round.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:24

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look on liveleak. You might find something there.

Autofixation > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:27

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This is just educated guessing on my part, the best person to talk to would obviously be a tanker, but even if you did get ahold of one, getting them to answer this question would be difficult.

I think for the most part your body wouldn’t be enough to detonate the round. Supposing it hit you in the chest, I think your “you would be blown in half” theory is correct. This would happen simply because of the shear velocity and size of the round.

Supposing you did detonate the round, and supposing it was a high explosive round and not an armor piercing round, yes, you would be blown into unrecognizable bits.

SirDrivesAlot (now with hybrid powerrrr) > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 22:39

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My Dad was a tank gunner in WWII. Once, after we had consumed considerable amounts of alcohol he did open up about some of his experiences. One was, while the tank was driving through a town in Germany a Hitler Youth popped up with a Panzerfaust aimed at them. Dad reached for the trigger for the .30 cal machine gun by the main gun... And grabbed the main gun trigger instead. There wasn’t enough left of the kid to scrape up with a spoon.....

Montalvo > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:13

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It would depend largely on the kinetic energy that is imparted and what is actually piercing you. There is kind of a wide variety of different effects these shells can have such as armor piercing, explosive, etc... If you are talking about a simple shell, the cleanest thing that will happen to you is a majority of your limbs/body will be torn off. At the very worst probably nothing left but pink mist with some meat falling back down shortly after. Think of it this way, there is a recorded and confirmed kill with a .50 cal sniper rifle 1.5 miles downrange. That kill hit the person in the midsection and still had enough kinetic energy to cut them in half. This is the round that did that...

Now you are talking about this

SHARPSPEED > scoob 04/18/2015 at 23:23

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I’ve seen nasty things even with safe search on so I’m kinda hardened to some the less pretty things the web has to offer. I’ve seen people’s faces who had a disagreement with a .50 BMG. Not nice.

blacktruck18 > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:24

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I am guessing that a tank round is like most HE rounds. The round will have to rotate a certain number of times before it will arm. I don’t know for sure I am just guessing. But, if you are going for reality that might play into it.

My guess if the round impacts a human and, is armed, it will still just pass through them. Kinetic energy pink mist but, no explosion of the actual round.

SHARPSPEED > Montalvo 04/18/2015 at 23:25

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I’ve seen pictures of what .50 BMGs will do to people so someone getting half’d with one isn’t surprising.

turbojames > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:26

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There was a documentary I watched about the battle of 63 Easting, Feb. 26th, 1991, in the beginning of Desert Storm, and there was a part about one tank, I believe commanded by Sergeant McMasters, that ran into a lone Republican Guard standing amongst the burning remains of his comrades tanks. The lone man leveled an RPG at the M1 Abrams. The gunner, Sabot round loaded and with no time to react, fired right at center mass of the enemy. McMasters described the body as “floating away like a leaf in the wind.”

scoob > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:29

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I’d say Bman is right and LiveLeak might contain your answer. Though I wonder if your searches would alarm Big Brother.

SHARPSPEED > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 04/18/2015 at 23:30

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Armor piercing is what I was thinking, so pink mist I guess.

SHARPSPEED > scoob 04/18/2015 at 23:31

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Liveleak in general should alarm big brother, let alone some scrub tooling around on it.

SHARPSPEED > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/18/2015 at 23:32

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So....you’d explode?

SHARPSPEED > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/18/2015 at 23:33

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Ah, liveleak. Where you can see things ranging from a kitten crawling out of a well to someone blowing their head of on the local news.

SHARPSPEED > turbojames 04/18/2015 at 23:37

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Hm, that’s different.

turbojames > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:46

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And apparently the gunner didn’t even switch to coax (coaxial machine gun, a .50 cal that turns in the turret) he just clapped out a round and the Iraqi was gone

cabarne4 > turbojames 04/18/2015 at 23:47

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Afterwards, McMasters received a promotion. He was then known as Master Sergeant McMasters.

ly2v8-Brian > SHARPSPEED 04/18/2015 at 23:52

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Gone. That is a Howitzer, if you were hit directly by one of its high explosive rounds your would be vaporized. At least you wouldn't feel it.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > SHARPSPEED 04/19/2015 at 00:30

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Yeah, how’d you guess?

BorkBorkBjork > SHARPSPEED 04/19/2015 at 01:04

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So, let’s assume its a APFSDS round. Ever seen Scanners? That part where the guys head explodes? Basically that, except with the whole human body. Tensile strength of the skin will hold small parts of the body together, but the bones and tendons will likely not be elastic enough to contain all of that energy, they will dissapate. Speaking of energy, let me put into perspective how much energy we are talking about. The Depleted Uranium round has enough energy to punch through 1.5 METERS of Rolled Homogenous Armor (if you know you metallurgy, the closest alloy to RHA is SAE 4340, strong stuff). Get out a tape measure and lay out 1.5 meters on the floor, now imagine that in SOLID steel. Not all of that energy will be transferred to the body, but humans are mostly water and water is very dense, so the body will absorb far more than enough do what is described above.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > turbojames 04/19/2015 at 01:36

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Maybe it was because of panic? I know that the one piece of offensive weaponry that could take out an M1 Abrams was the RPG-29, so maybe...

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/19/2015 at 04:21

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There appears to be a theme here...and none of the options seems...comfortable.

orcim > SHARPSPEED 04/19/2015 at 05:46

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My dad talked about a tank crew in S. Korea that were in the ‘zone in the late 50’s when he was there and everyday a N. Korean commander type would come up over the embankment on the other side and use his binoculars to scan the area. He’d stay put for over an hour, everyday, doing that.

This tank crew was bored, so one day decided to sight aim (looking through the barrel) of their 50s’ tank gun (not sure what it was) and took 40 minutes to get it perfect on the center of mass of the observing officer. At the range, the trajectory would be basically flat. They loaded a bunker breaker (just a solid lead sabot), and fired. By this time, there were a bunch of people watching.

Reports were that the officer disappeared into a pink cloud. My dad told me that story in the 60’s, and it’s always been with me.

turbojames > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 04/19/2015 at 09:00

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At such a close range (only 50 meters or less) an RPG would have an alright chance of penetrating the Abrams’ armor. At longer range it wouldnt have such a good chance, so the gunner in my opinion was right to act so quickly.

The Compromiser > SHARPSPEED 04/19/2015 at 09:42

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We used a term. It was,”crimson mist and bone chips.” Seems about right.

brianbrannon > SHARPSPEED 04/19/2015 at 13:26

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Pink mist is my guess

Hi there > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 04/20/2015 at 22:03

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Even if it was an RPG-7 it’ll make an M1 less pretty or throw a track. Can’t speak as to the veracity of the story but panic shooting the 120mm isn’t ridiculous. Works for me in battlefield when some scrub pops up at close range with an RPG, sometimes it’s faster to just shell them than toggle to coaxial and spray.

ptak appreciates old racecars > turbojames 09/13/2015 at 22:12

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War sucks.